[171736] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon May 12 10:53:09 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <5370DAEF.5020102@bogus.com>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 07:51:50 -0700
To: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On May 12, 2014, at 7:30 AM, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
> On 5/12/14, 7:07 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>=20
>> On May 12, 2014, at 6:02 AM, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 10/05/2014 22:34, Randy Bush wrote:
>>>> imiho think vi hart has it down simply and understandable by a lay
>>>> person. <http://vihart.com/net-neutrality-in-the-us-now-what/>. =
my
>>>> friends in last mile providers disagree. i take that as a good =
sign.
>>>=20
>>> Vi's analogy is wrong on a subtle but important point. In the =
analogy, the
>>> delivery company needs to get a bunch of new trucks to handle the =
delivery
>>> but as the customer is paying for each delivery instances, the =
delivery
>>> company's costs are covered by increased end-user charges.
>>=20
>> Two words nuke your suggestion here: Amazon Prime
>=20
> Once you build the capacity to reach every delivery point every-day =
it's
> maybe not enough to hope that people utilize that facility . =
decreasing
> the cost per package requires higher unit volume. The incremental cost
> of delivering the second package is much lower than the first.
My point is that above, he claims that shipping is per package and not =
flat-rate.
Amazon Prime contradicts that claim. It is flat rate for two-day =
shipping for
almost everything I purchase from Amazon.
Owen
