[17161] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Wired Q: Embedded NT
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roeland M.J. Meyer)
Mon May 25 12:33:48 1998
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 09:23:13 -0700
To: "Alex P. Rudnev" <alex@Relcom.EU.net>
From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
Cc: Peter Galbavy <peter@wonderland.org>, Leigh Porter <leigh@wisper.net>,
dnewman@data.com, nlehrer@usia.gov, james@wired.com, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.980525131004.20622k-100000@virgin.relcom.eu.
net>
At 01:12 PM 5/25/98 +0400, Alex P. Rudnev wrote:
>You are wrong a little. The difference is:
>
>- if you use MS and it don't work, your boss blame to BILL GATES.
>
>- if you use FreeBSD (or Linux, through FreeBSD is better for the
>networking) and it don't work, your boss blame _guess, who? - YOU_ .
Nope, buying IBM/M$ to secure your job is a canard. In both cases, if you
are an employee you will lose credibility (lose enough of that and your job
follows), as an owner of a business you lose customers (lose enough of
*that* and you'll have to get a real job). If an employee causes sufficient
loss of business through bad decisions, they get canned (back to
credibility again).
We run Caldera here, with WinNT workstations. This is not simply because we
are a Caldera VAR. Linux servers are much more reliable than WinNT,
although we have *one* of those also, no choice and it's constantly in
Intensive Care (Netscape ES3.51 locks up regularly or NT auto-boots and we
have to MANUALLY enter the VeriSign password. We are working on an
Linux/Apache-SSL/PostgreSQL/self-certifying solution). BTW, Caldera does
not yet have an Enterprise Server solution, but there's one on the way.
>That's a matter.
>
>>
>> The reason is simple. While we sit here bitching about this "minor"
>> issue and that "minor" issue, like the state of the net, the S&M
>> (Sales and Marketing, but sometimes I wonder) people are out there
>> from Mickeysoft promoting the "No one ever got fired for buying M$"
>> message. NT is a >corporate< product. This, in my view, means that
>> you don't care if it works as long as you can hire someone else to
>> fix it and your budget is maintained. Hell, if we started using "free"
>> products, we wouldn't have license fees to pay and my budget to run
>> a 100 node NT network would disappear. Budgets = Power in that sad
>> world.
>
>...
>
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