[171476] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu May 1 18:49:03 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <5362A6E7.8090105@pubnix.net>
Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 15:43:08 -0700
To: ahebert@pubnix.net
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Care to comment on how you feel about the COI that developed between AA =
Consulting business at Enron and AA auditing Enron?
Not asking you to disclose anything confidential, but if you have wisdom =
to impart about any sort of generic lessons learned, etc. that might be =
relevant to this discussion, I think that could be useful.
Owen
On May 1, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Alain Hebert <ahebert@pubnix.net> wrote:
> Hey,
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> I worked for them (AA) in the early 90's =3DD
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> Alain Hebert ahebert@pubnix.net =20
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> On 05/01/14 14:07, John Souter wrote:
>> On 01/05/14 17:41, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> The problem with this theory is that if auditors can be so easily =
put to the
>>> street, you run into the risk of auditors altering behavior to =
increase customer
>>> satisfaction in ways that prevent them from providing the controls =
that are the
>>> reason auditors exist in the first place.
>> I disagree. And the power balance is generally tilted way in favour =
of
>> the auditors, as many people on this thread have already commented. =
In
>> my experience, most companies are afraid/inhibited to raise issues or
>> challenge their auditors in any way. Nobody is asking auditors to =
roll
>> over, but if their behaviour is unprofessional/illogical, then a =
short
>> sharp shock should do the trick.
>>=20
>>> If you don=92t believe me, examine the history of Arthur Anderson =
and their
>>> relationship with a certain Houston-based company which failed =
spectacularly.
>> Can't really comment, but it was financial auditing, and ISTR that =
many
>> things failed in that situation - not just financial auditing.
>>=20
>> John
