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Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Suresh Ramasubramanian)
Mon Apr 28 09:26:57 2014

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 18:53:00 +0530
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Niels Bakker <niels=nanog@bakker.net> wrote:
> * jnanog@gmail.com (Rick Astley) [Mon 28 Apr 2014, 05:08 CEST]:
>>
>> If you think prices for residential broadband are bad now if you passed a
>> law that says all content providers big and small must have settlement free
>
> Lower it?
>
> Right now broadband providers pay a transit provider who then get paid
> by content providers to carry the bits, generally because broadband
> providers don't want to think about running IP networks because they
>  their skills lie more in the television part of RF networks.

People are never gonna give this thread up, I see.  Easily one of the
longest threads in recent nanog history and I'm starting to see points
rehashed and strawmen trotted out.

Comcast sells wholesale transit -
http://www.comcast.com/dedicatedinternet/?SCRedirect=true

And it has a settlement free peering policy - with a stated
requirement that traffic exchanged be symmetrical.

http://www.comcast.com/peering

> Applicant must maintain a traffic scale between its network and
> Comcast that enables a general balance of inbound versus
> outbound traffic. The network cost burden for carrying traffic
> between networks shall be similar to justify SFI

Now, that big elephant in the room taken into account, where do the
middlemen come in here?

--srs

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