[171370] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sun Apr 27 20:07:49 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAObxEFBThzyMCugPBxXC_Lvg8FUxcBO2HbOGMyHBOimj9zFrqg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 17:05:03 -0700
To: Rick Astley <jnanog@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Apr 26, 2014, at 11:23 PM, Rick Astley <jnanog@gmail.com> wrote:
>> How is this *not* Comcast's problem? If my users are requesting more
> traffic than I banked on, how is it not my responsibility to ensure I =
have
> capacity to handle that? I have gear; you have gear. I upgrade or =
add
> ports on my side; you upgrade or add ports on your side. Am I missing
> something?
>=20
> Sort of yes, it's Comcasts problem to upgrade subscriber lines but if =
that
> point of congestion is the links between Netflix and Comcast then =
Netflix
> would be on the hook to ensure they have enough capacity to Comcast to =
get
> the data at least gets TO the Comcast network. The argument at hand is =
if
> Comcast permitted to charge them for the links to get to their network =
or
> should they be free/settlement free. I think it should be OK to charge =
for
> those links as long as its a fair market rate and the price doesn't
> basically amount to extortion. Sadly the numbers are not public so I
> couldn't tell you one way or the other aside from I disagree with the
> position Netflix seems to be taking that they simply must be free. =
Once
> that traffic is given directly to comcast no other party receives =
payment
> for delivering it so there is no double billing.
Beyond that, there=92s a more subtle argument also going on about =
whether
$EYEBALL_PROVIDER can provide favorable network access to $CONTENT_A
and less favorable network access to $CONTENT_B as a method for =
encouraging
subscribers to select $CONTENT_A over $CONTENT_B by affecting the =
relative
performance.
This becomes much stickier when you face the reality that in many =
places,
$EYEBALL_PROVIDER has an effective monopoly as the only player choosing
to offer services at a useful level of bandwidth/etc. (If that).
Owen
