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RE: [[Infowarrior] - NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for Years]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Black)
Mon Apr 14 10:49:22 2014
From: Matthew Black <Matthew.Black@csulb.edu>
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:48:03 +0000
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Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Also on this same idea, in his book "The Puzzle Palace," James Bamford clai=
ms that we knew of the pending attack on Pearl Harbor but did nothing, beca=
use that would compromise we broke the Japanese Purple Cipher.
matthew black
california state university, long beach
-----Original Message-----
From: William Herrin [mailto:bill@herrin.us]=20
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:06 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [[Infowarrior] - NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for Year=
s]
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Niels Bakker <niels=3Dnanog@bakker.net> wr=
ote:
> Please go read up on some recent and less recent history before making=20
> judgments on what would be unusually gutsy for that group of people.
>
> I'm not saying this has been happening but you will have to come up=20
> with a better defense than "it seems unlikely to me personally".
Let me know when someone finds the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
As for me, I do have some first hand knowledge as to exactly how sensitive =
several portions of the federal government are to the security of the serve=
rs which hold their data. They may not hold YOUR data in high regard... but=
the word "sensitive" does not do justice to the attention lavished on THEI=
R servers' security.
In WW2 we protected the secret of having cracked enigma by deliberately ign=
oring a lot of the knowledge we gained. So such things have happened. But w=
e didn't use enigma ourselves -- none of our secrets were at risk. And our =
adversaries today have no secrets more valuable than our own.
-Bill
