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Re: BGPMON Alert Questions

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Tinka)
Thu Apr 3 11:06:10 2014

From: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 17:05:05 +0200
In-Reply-To: <CAL9jLaYoTkPcEFqxq5szAnE+1_kRpdgDsktx1NZwyYSaVMaVPA@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Thursday, April 03, 2014 03:55:11 PM Christopher Morrow=20
wrote:

> I'm going to guess:
>   1) who's going to pay for the filtering setup work?

Well, your customers are paying you to ensure they don't get=20
cut off due to your negligence.

You also don't want to become a "watch-out-for-that-one"=20
peer within the community.

But, perhaps those two ideals are not significant motivation=20
for change :-\.

>   2) we have always done it this way... why change?

This is probably a more endemic issue of our industry, where=20
operators find it hard to keep up with the times (there is=20
no shortage of "-bis" or BCP documents) through actual=20
useful implementation (BCP-38) vs. talk (SDN hype).

In the case of nailing routing filters for customers, one=20
thought that comes to mind is if your organization is large=20
enough, throw a warm body at the issue. There are lots of=20
interns or folk you can hire on a temporary basis to focus=20
on cleaning all this up, and getting the NOC trained and=20
clued up on the new strategy. The new strategy is not just=20
shiny, it could actually save you loss of customers and=20
community respect.

But that's just me...

Mark.

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