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Re: ARIN board accountability to network operators (was: RE:

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Thu Mar 27 18:43:01 2014

Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 07:42:30 +0900
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org>
In-Reply-To: <E200F659-9ABE-4FDA-BC51-BB7CAADFD25F@istaff.org>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

nanog is a separable game.  it is currently very confused between form
and substance, making committees for everything.  like the bcop thing.
two organizations, nanog and isoc, forming organizational structures to
create a document store.  the ops' doc store is ripe's because the ripe
wgs produced work and someone realized they needed a place to stash it.
so now nanog and isoc need to flag-plant.  the up-side is that it's a
great b-ark, keeps them from doing damage.

> And I would welcome discussion of how ARIN (and nanog) can be more
> like RIPE

i purposefully phrased it a bit differently, how can arin engage, get
real participation from, and serve its community, the operators.  i was
stealing examples from ripe.

but, for concrete action, how about a half day session at the next nanog
meeting on, for example, arin database services, whois and irr.  not to
try to reach hard conclusions or plans.  but to open a dialog to explore
what the community gets and wants from these services and how they are
provided.

or pick another key service.

randy


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