[170418] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: [mailop] IPv6 DNSBL
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Hofstee)
Thu Mar 27 09:21:34 2014
From: David Hofstee <david@mailplus.nl>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:21:02 +0100
In-Reply-To: <7A34FFDC-C548-4AF1-89B0-B64270410D41@delong.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
>> I suggest reputation on the reply-to domain also (if authenticated of co=
urse). No more running to other IPs / ESPs if you are a bad boy. You can in=
tegrate it in browsers and show it there too (watch out; don't enter your e=
mail address here because they will spam you or have spam evading practices=
[if no authentication takes place]). Show the reputation in the email clie=
nt if possible.
>Most are not authenticated. The vast majority of SPAM I see is, among othe=
r things, Joe Jobbed.
True. But the world must progress too. It would be nice if the spam-issue i=
s better solved on IPv6 (than on IPv4). You would then have a reason to /no=
t/ accept on IPv4 (and give IPv6 a boost).=20
There must be a good reason for people to get of their asses and start impl=
ementing things like DMARC. All the banks (!$%^) I talk to do not have any =
reason to implement it swiftly (they turn on p=3Dnone and then all progress=
stops). Frustrating that they are too lazy to implement a few DNS records.=
=20
It only needs firm backing by 3+ large companies like Hotmail. Give everyon=
e on IPv6 without DMARC a large spamscore (and publish that beforehand ;-) =
). Give me ammunition and all corporates will move.
David Hofstee
Deliverability Management
MailPlus B.V. Netherlands (ESP)
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen@delong.com]=20
Verzonden: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:40 PM
Aan: David Hofstee
CC: Michael Peddemors; nanog@nanog.org
Onderwerp: Re: [mailop] IPv6 DNSBL
On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:37 AM, David Hofstee <david@mailplus.nl> wrote:
> I suggest reputation on the reply-to domain also (if authenticated of cou=
rse). No more running to other IPs / ESPs if you are a bad boy. You can int=
egrate it in browsers and show it there too (watch out; don't enter your em=
ail address here because they will spam you or have spam evading practices =
[if no authentication takes place]). Show the reputation in the email clien=
t if possible.
Most are not authenticated. The vast majority of SPAM I see is, among other=
things, Joe Jobbed.
Owen
