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Re: why IPv6 isn't ready for prime time, SMTP edition

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John R. Levine)
Wed Mar 26 15:36:17 2014

Date: 26 Mar 2014 15:35:48 -0400
From: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
To: "=?UTF-8?Q?M=C3=A5ns_Nilsson?=" <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>
In-Reply-To: <20140326183226.GE10032@besserwisser.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

>> It must be nice to live in world where there is so little spam and
>> other mail abuse that you don't have to do any of the anti-abuse
>> things that real providers in the real world have to do.
>
> What is a real provider? And what in the email specifications tells us
> that the email needs and solutions of any one individual, as long as they
> are following protocol (which I'm quite convinced Mark is) are "unreal"?

A real provider is one that provides mail for real users, as opposed to 
someone who plays RFC language lawyer games.  I only have a few dozen 
users, but I can assure you I use a whole lot of different filtering 
approaches including DNSBLs to keep my users' mailboxes usable.

I must say it's pretty amusing that someone who works for the organization 
that published the original DNSBL seems to be ranting against them.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly


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