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Re: why IPv6 isn't ready for prime time, SMTP edition

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?utf-8?B?TcOlbnM=?= Nilsson)
Wed Mar 26 14:39:07 2014

Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:32:27 +0100
From: =?utf-8?B?TcOlbnM=?= Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>
To: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1403252244081.6500@joyce.lan>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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Subject: Re: why IPv6 isn't ready for prime time, SMTP edition Date: Tue, M=
ar 25, 2014 at 10:45:00PM -0400 Quoting John R. Levine (johnl@iecc.com):
> >None of this is REQUIRED.  It is forced on people by a cartel of
> >email providers.
>=20
> It must be nice to live in world where there is so little spam and
> other mail abuse that you don't have to do any of the anti-abuse
> things that real providers in the real world have to do.

What is a real provider? And what in the email specifications tells us
that the email needs and solutions of any one individual, as long as they
are following protocol (which I'm quite convinced Mark is) are "unreal"?

There are scalability issues that single out the mega-class providers
as something special. But those are no reason to go around debating the
realness of other email handling organisations.

Also, the accept/reject policies of email recipients are subject to
individual evaluation and implementation at each MX host. Attempts at
describing the state of email as other than that are false and should
be discarded[0].

--=20
M=C3=A5ns Nilsson     primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina
MN-1334-RIPE                             +46 705 989668
Content:  80% POLYESTER, 20% DACRONi ... The waitress's UNIFORM sheds
TARTAR SAUCE like an 8" by 10" GLOSSY ...

[0] I'm sorry for the wording here, I just had to recall a paraphrased=20
    instruction from when Sweden had a psyops defence organisation.=20
    "Varje meddelande om att motst=C3=A5ndet skall uppges =C3=A4r falskt."

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