[170303] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Mar 26 01:37:13 2014
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <63e1934fa178cd323f44911f34681039.squirrel@66.201.44.180>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:27:57 -0700
To: bob@FiberInternetCenter.com
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
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>>>=20
>>> Thus far, IPv6 has been the "Field of Dreams" .... those of us who =
have
>>> built it, we know they have not yet come (the IPv6 customers). =
That's
>>> all this discussion is really about is "when will they come".
>>=20
>> Some of us have quite a few IPv6 customers:
>> http://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/
>> And we see significant traffic from those users. :-)
>>=20
>=20
> Maybe my isolation in silicon valley causes me to have a different =
IPv6
> experience. Not much IPv6 happening here. I heard Google my have =
topped
> over 2% traffic that is IPv6. Significant ? Not from where I am =
sitting.
>=20
There=92s actually lots of IPv6 happening in Silicon Valley. I=92ve been =
running IPv6
for years and so has my employer. Your Google data is old=85 They=92re =
well over 4%
and it=92s been doubling about every 3-6 months, so I=92d expect to see =
upwards of 16%
by the end of the year, but remember, that=92s traffic that chose IPv6 =
based on happy
eyeballs and doesn=92t represent all traffic that could have gone IPv6 =
or even all
traffic that would have gone best over IPv6.
If Micr0$0ft would publish the stats of native vs. teredo from the xbox =
one, I bet
we=92d have a better idea of what percentage of folks are running IPv6 =
for real.
I think it=92s a lot more than you seem to believe.
Of the major consumer providers in the area, AT&T and SPRINT Wireless =
are
the only ones I=92m aware of that are completely unable to do IPv6. Even =
some
of the smaller residential providers are now doing some IPv6 and I hear =
rumors
that some AT&T DSL and uVerse customers can now get IPv6.
> We give away the IPv6 to every business on a second port - to make =
their
> life easy and encourage them to play with it. Unfortunately, few try =
it at
> all.
We make IPv6 available to all of our customers on the same port which =
seems
to make their life even easier and many of our customers are using it. =
Perhaps
this is food for thought.
Owen
