[170230] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: arin representation
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Tue Mar 25 06:04:21 2014
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:03:39 +0000
In-Reply-To: <m2k3biwsxi.wl%randy@psg.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>> I do not agree with the characterization that "... we are ruled by
>> self-perptuating monopolies which lack oversight and accountability",
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> when you have a governance committee which is composed of the governing,
> not outsiders and governance experts, with no term limits, it would seem
> hard to support that argument.
Acknowledged, and I will provide that feedback to the Board. =20
I have nothing against term limits (but I also did not champion them back
when I was an elected member of the Board of Trustees.) Many cite risk
of losing well-qualified and experienced Board members right when they=20
are most productive as the counter-argument. This is probably a fairly=20
prolonged discussion, and the ARIN membership also needs to weigh in...
>> - Simple terms and conditions for contracts with registries
>> - Membership organizations for registries with term limits=20
>> for Board and advisory bodies
>> - Board diversity (meaning real world users)
>> - Competitive registries=20
>> - ...
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> i pretty much agree that arin should do these. except ...
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> iff we could get reasonable governance, i am not sure we need multiple
> rirs. after all, the registries were just supposed to be bookkeepers.
> but i agree that competition is a good method of injecting some reality
> into the physics in the absense of other means.
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> but i eagerly await the simplification of arin's ts&cs. and get rid of
> being able to change them unilateraly and arbitrarily, and get rid the
> silly game about legacy rights, and a whole bunch of us might join.
I will note that this discussion is presently on nanog, and I am not=20
certain that all of the ARIN Board members subscribe... I will forward
your message to the Board, but would you prefer to take this to one of
the ARIN lists, or have a us setup a distinct list for this purpose,=20
or something else?
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
