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RE: misunderstanding scale

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Naslund, Steve)
Mon Mar 24 15:01:42 2014

From: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund@medline.com>
To: Timothy Morizot <tmorizot@gmail.com>, Alexander Lopez
 <alex.lopez@opsys.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:55:37 +0000
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Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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I doubt that many residential customers will be readdressing their networks=
 except for us geeks.  Most of them are going to be using CPE that grabs an=
 address via DHCP for the WAN interface and then does an IPv6 DHCP PD with =
the /64 it gets from the service provider.  The customer sees nothing at al=
l.  It is plug and play.  In IPv6 the concept of manual addressing is stron=
gly discouraged so the issue of readdressing networks should be improved no=
t made more difficult.  Private address space assignments might be simple t=
o you but grandma and my sister in law, not so much.  They just plug in the=
ir gear and don't worry about addresses.

In the corporate world, there is nothing stopping you from keeping your ipv=
4 private addressing going for a long time.  In fact, I think that is what =
most companies will do.  If you want IPv6 internally, then have at it and p=
lease use DHCP.

Steven Naslund


>On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Alexander Lopez <alex.lopez@opsys.com<ma=
ilto:alex.lopez@opsys.com>> wrote:
>not to mention the cost in readdressing your entire network when you chang=
e an upstream provider.

>Nat was a fix to a problem of lack of addresses,  however, the use of priv=
ate address space 10/8, 192.168/16 has allowed many to enjoy a simple netwo=
rk addressing scheme.

>Which is, of course, precisely the use case that ULA and NPTv6 (RFC 6296, =
not to be confused with a non-existent NAT66) addresses....

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