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Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Tinka)
Sun Mar 23 15:34:47 2014

From: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu>
To: Cb B <cb.list6@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 21:34:10 +0200
In-Reply-To: <CAD6AjGT5Wj0LvQj9Jxn=-MPqT9eQ2trGjnhj_39pNZ4299a1Xw@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: mark.tinka@seacom.mu
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On Sunday, March 23, 2014 09:24:35 PM Cb B wrote:

> My hope is that folks stop equating firewalls with
> security, when the first step is to secure the host,
> accountability is with the host, then layer other tools
> as needed.

I couldn't agree more.

As an example, your home PC (whose OS wasn't updated in=20
months because the wife and kids can't be asked) is hit via=20
HTTP in a way your CPE firewall couldn't prevent. It is then=20
used to re-attack other appliances in your home that have=20
poor software with no security features.

CPE firewalls won't do anything about that.

I support vendors of all kinds (Tv's, microwaves, STB's,=20
home theatre systems, video game consoles, e.t.c.) to=20
include some kind of localized security features that=20
augment what a CPE firewall can offer. This will be even=20
more critical, I think, to getting homes and offices to=20
accept the use of GUA's on the LAN, if we have any hopes of=20
finally getting rid of NAT with IPv6, at the scale we have=20
it in IPv4.

Mark.

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