[169960] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Fri Mar 21 16:41:25 2014
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <201403211622.s2LGM57F005961@aurora.sol.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:40:53 -0400
To: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 21, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net> wrote:
>> On Mar 21, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net> wrote:
>>> Why wouldn't you instead charge for the build out as a NRC and then =
=3D
>> charge=3D20
>>> for maintenance as a MRC?
>>=20
>> I for one would be willing to bear a high NRC start-up cost for =
someone =3D
>> building fiber to my home. Not everyone would make that tradeoff. =20=
>=20
> I was discussing the cost that the service provider had to pay in the
> context of a "$4/mo copper pair" for rental of a copper pair that the
> ILEC almost certainly did not need to install. I do not see why the
> cost for build out needs to be included in the actual monthly cost an
> ILEC needs to charge.
>=20
> I think that utilities have a long history of proving that the cost
> for build out can be successfully charged to the property owner in
> several ways as you note. I don't see it as being an insurmountable
> problem to find some way for an intermediate service provider to
> deal with this if needed.
Sure, but for POTS this installation NRC was regulated for residential =
(at least last time I ordered a POTS line for a home, which was ....)
The cost of the O&M on the switch and OSP is likely less than what I pay =
them. The history was they were allowed to show costs and add on a =
margin and rate increases would be approved. I don't want to know what =
their costs are after ice storms...
Here in Michigan there was a recent law passed to allow ending of =
service in areas starting January 2017.
=
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/%28S%28la3cxz45kfy2bs55wvsiqy55%29%29/mileg.=
aspx?page=3DGetObject&objectname=3D2013-SB-0636
- Jared=
