[169747] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Larry Sheldon)
Thu Mar 13 19:35:26 2014
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:35:00 -0500
From: Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon@cox.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <d1Pc1n00i1Una3W011PdLX>
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On 3/13/2014 8:22 AM, Sholes, Joshua wrote:
> On 3/13/14, 12:35 AM, "shawn wilson" <ag4ve.us@gmail.com> wrote:
>> A note on terminology - whether you know what you're doing, actually break
>> into a system, or obtain a thumb drive with data that you weren't supposed
>> to have - it has the same end so I'd refer to it by the same term -
>> hacking. Trying to differentiate terms based on skill, target, or data
>> type is kinda dumb.
>
> If one came up in this field with a mentor who was old school, or if one
> is old school oneself, one tends use the original (as I understand it)
> definitions--a "cracker" breaks security or obtains data unlawfully, a
> "hacker" is someone who likes ethically playing (in the "joyful
> exploration" sense) with complicated systems.
>
> People who are culturally younger tend use "hacker", as you are doing, for
> the former and as far as I can tell no specific term for the latter.
>
> If you ask me, this is something of a cultural loss.
Not sure I can agree with that. I have been in this game for a very
long time, but for most of it in places where the world's population
cleaved neatly into two parts: "Authorized Users" who could be
identified by the facts that they had ID cards, Badges, and knew the
door code; and "trespassers" who were all others.
Then you new kids came along and (pointlessly, in my opinion) divided
the later group into the two described above.
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