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Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sholes, Joshua)
Wed Mar 12 12:59:29 2014

From: "Sholes, Joshua" <Joshua_Sholes@cable.comcast.com>
To: Andrew D Kirch <trelane@trelane.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:58:41 +0000
In-Reply-To: <53208D63.2090303@trelane.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Ha!

=B3Easy=B2, in my personal experience (having once upon a time caught a hac=
ker
in .ro, but it took six months of work to seal the deal with handcuffs).

--=20
Josh Sholes



On 3/12/14, 12:37 PM, "Andrew D Kirch" <trelane@trelane.net> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I found that finding them on IRC, or wherever it is that they
>congregate, and simply talking to them until they incriminate themselves
>tends to work best.  I also found that firewalls, IDS, security audits,
>antivirus, antimalware etc work almost not at all.  The reason for this
>is pretty simple.  Cybercrime is not a technical problem and does not
>have a technical solution.  The solution is just like any other criminal
>act, find them, get them to confess, and then put a real world face and
>location to the IRC persona.  Easy.
>
>Andrew
>
>
>On 3/12/2014 12:16 PM, Warren Bailey wrote:
>> I heard cheese works really well for catching crackers.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon@cox.net>
>> Date: 03/12/2014 9:08 AM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: How to catch a cracker in the US?
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/2014 5:41 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
>>
>>> TIINAL - The Internet Is Not A Lawyer.
>> NANOGINTI
>>
>> There ARE rules in the environment, however.  For example, there is one
>> that I am too lazy to look-up that argues for the use of a .sig
>> separator "-- ".
>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com>
>>>
>>>           Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.
>>>
>>>                        -- John Milton
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Requiescas in pace o email           Two identifying characteristics
>>                                           of System Administrators:
>> Ex turpi causa non oritur actio      Infallibility, and the ability to
>>                                           learn from their mistakes.
>>                                             (Adapted from Stephen
>>Pinker)
>>
>
>



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