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Managing ACL exceptions (was Re: Filter NTP traffic by packet size?)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Wed Feb 26 16:02:27 2014

Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:01:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <CADE4tYXj30DeXS2-Jr1m87JGTB=xTbYVZTje-RvtWoB903jcPA@mail.gmail.com>
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brandon Galbraith" <brandon.galbraith@gmail.com>

> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Keegan Holley <no.spam@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > More politely stated, it=E2=80=99s not the responsibility of the operat=
or to
> > decide what belongs on the network and what doesn=E2=80=99t. Users can =
run any
> > services that=E2=80=99s not illegal or even reuse ports for other
> > applications.

> Blocking chargen at the edge doesn't seem to be outside of the realm
> of possibilities.

All of these conversations are variants of "how easy is it to set up a
default ACL for loops, and then manage exceptions to it?".

Assuming your gear permits it, I don't personally see all that much=20
Bad Actorliness in setting a relatively tight bidirectional ACL for
Random Edge Customers, and opening up -- either specific ports, or
just "to a less-/un-filtered ACL" on specific request.

The question is -- as it is with BCP38 -- *can the edge gear handle it*?

And if not: why not?  (Protip: because buyers of that gear aren't=20
agitating for it)

Cheers,
-- jra
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