[169382] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Filter NTP traffic by packet size?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cb B)
Sat Feb 22 04:07:51 2014
In-Reply-To: <36E610E4-D6A3-4F28-B061-4257E33563B2@tzi.org>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 01:07:18 -0800
From: Cb B <cb.list6@gmail.com>
To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> On 22 Feb 2014, at 08:47, Saku Ytti <saku@ytti.fi> wrote:
>
>> I'm surprised MinimaLT and QUIC have have not put transport area people =
in
>> high gear towards standardization of new PKI based L4 protocol, I think =
its
>> elegant solution to many practical reoccurring problem, solution which h=
as
>> become practical only rather recently.
>
> Oh, the transport area people *are* in their high gear.
> Their frantic movements may just seem static to you as they operate on mo=
re drawn-out time scales.
> (The last transport protocol I worked on became standards-track 16 years =
after I started working on it.)
>
> At this IETF, there will be a "Transport Services" BOF to help find out w=
hat exactly the services are that a new transport protocol should provide t=
o the applications. Research platforms such as QUIC, tcpcrypt, MINION etc.=
are very much in the focus of attention.
>
> This time, it would be nice if the operations people got to have a say ea=
rly on in what gets standardized.
> (Just be careful not to try to "fight yesterday's war".)
>
> Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten
>
>
yesterday's war =3D don't bring up that operators are having a real
problem with UDP, and that operators have and will continue to block
it? Because, i think that is what this thread is about.
i did bring yesterday's war to the IETF RTCWweb group and got the
expected answer
My concern:
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg11425.html
Summary IETF response: The problem i described is already solved by
bcp38, nothing to see here, carry on with UDP
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg11477.html
CB
