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Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Wed Feb 5 16:43:57 2014

Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:43:13 -0800
From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <5822441.7294.1391635482579.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
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On 2/5/14, 1:24 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Octavio Alvarez" <alvarezp@alvarezp.ods.org>
>=20
>> Maybe I'm oversimplifying things but I'm really curious to know why
>> can't the nearest-to-end-user ACL-enabled router simply have an ACL to=

>> only allows packets from end-users that has a valid source-address
>> from the network segment they provide service to.
>=20
> The common answer, Octavio, at least *used to* be "our line cards aren'=
t=20
> smart enough to implement strict-unicast-RPF, and our boxes don't have =

> enough horsepower to handle every packet through the CPU".
>=20
> As I've noted, I'm not sure I believe that's true of current generation=

> gear, and if it *is*, then it should cost manufacturers business.

There are boxes that haven't aged out of the network yet where that's an
issue, some are more datacenter-centric than others. force10 e1200 was
one platform that had this limitation for example.

> Cheers,
> -- jra
>=20



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