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Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Andrews)
Tue Feb 4 17:01:08 2014

To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
From: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Feb 2014 14:35:33 -0500."
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:00:39 +1100
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


In message <977303.7242.1391542533531.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>, Jay 
Ashworth writes:
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Ferguson" <fergdawgster@mykolab.com>
> 
> > > (And yes, I know that in the first case, it urges the customer to
> > > cough up the bucks, and in the second case, it's usually not a
> > > revenue generator)
> > 
> > It's a dichotomy that is... unexplainable for me personally.
> 
> Nope: it's easy to explain; you merely have to be a cynical bastard:
> 
> Attack traffic takes up bandwidth.
> 
> Providers sell bandwidth.
> 
> It *is in their commercial best interest (read: maximizing shareholder
> value) *NOT* to filter out DOS, DDOS, and spam traffic until their hand is 
> forced -- it's actually their fiduciary duty not to.

Then the need to be made criminally liable for the damage that it causes.
Yes, the directors of these companies need to serve gaol time.

> *THIS* is the problem we have to fix.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- jra
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