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Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Herrin)
Tue Feb 4 14:31:51 2014

In-Reply-To: <52F13A99.10601@dougbarton.us>
From: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 14:28:22 -0500
To: Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us> wrote:
> On 02/04/2014 08:04 AM, William Herrin wrote:
>> If just three of the transit-free networks rewrote their peering
>> contracts such that there was a $10k per day penalty for sending
>> packets with source addresses the peer should reasonably have known
>> were forged, this problem would go away in a matter of weeks.
>
> Won't work because no one will sign that contract.

Hi Doug,

Verizon Business is willing to do settlement-free peering with you but
you won't agree to a reciprocal penalty if either allows its customers
to forge packets? I call that a weed-out factor. Weed out the bad
actors because anyone else would consider that peering arrangement too
valuable to pass up.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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