[1686] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Policy Statement on Address Space Allocations
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ed Morin)
Mon Jan 29 14:34:09 1996
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:19:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Ed Morin <edm@halcyon.com>
To: Christian Huitema <huitema@pax.inria.fr>
Cc: Sean Doran <smd@cesium.clock.org>, Daniel.Karrenberg@ripe.net,
cidrd@iepg.org, iana@isi.edu, iesg@isi.edu, local-ir@ripe.net,
nanog@merit.edu, smd@sprint.net
In-Reply-To: <v02120d02ad325266b5cc@[138.96.24.178]>
To some extent, isn't this how the Amateur Radio folks carve up the 44.*.*.*
network? It might be an interesting experiment to use another class A net,
sort of like the recent 39.*.*.* (or was it 38?) subnet experiment for such
things as web farms, etc. that don't need large allocations, but could really
benefit from multi-homing.
Ed
On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Christian Huitema wrote:
> At 11:22 AM 26/1/96, Sean Doran wrote:
> >| > We just have some differences of philosophy -- you think
> >| > that RIPE really can persuade people into having only
> >| > 1024 announements (preferably far fewer) in 195/8, and
> >| > I don't. That's all.
> >|
> >| OK. I call this a challenge but you won't let me try ;-).
> >
> >You and Randy Bush seem to be reading each other's minds.
> >
> >He has proposed this in a way that is very interesting,
> >and which I will think about.
> >
> >There is a bad failure mode to consider that even a badge
> >afterwards won't make any more attractive.
> >
> >Mostly it's "what on earth do we do if we cross the
> >threshold of 1024 prefixes in 195/8?" to which I see no easy
> >answer that doesn't involve inflict enormous pain on people
> >with old, established long prefixes in 195/8.
>
> There is at least one very simple response. Set up some deviant CIX, say
> IX195-8, let everyone with a shortish 195/8 prefix connect to it either
> directly through their own provider, or indirectly through some tunnel, and
> have IX195-8 announce reachability of 195/8. That is, in short, altern
> topology to meet addresses when the converse is too hard. KRE detailed
> that for the general case, but it would be even simpler in the case of
> RIPE, since all the allocated network numbers are in the same geographical
> area.
>
> Christian Huitema
>
>
>
Ed Morin
Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505 (voice)
Professional Internet Services
edm@nwnexus.WA.COM
