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Re: BGP multihoming

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Justin M. Streiner)
Wed Jan 29 15:45:41 2014

Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:25:55 -0500 (EST)
From: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAPkb-7AC0qATSDo+Xs73kGAmSurp6RNHjgiX=rTY3F0dUuRsxg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Baldur Norddahl wrote:

> I had a customer ask if we could provide him with BGP such that he could be
> multihomed. He already has 128 IP addresses from another ISP. Obviously a
> /25 is a non go for multihoming as everyone are going to ignore his route.

Not necessarily everyone, but a lot of providers will filter that.  More 
headaches than it's worth.

> I would then need to help him with acquiring a /24 PI. Which appears to be
> impossible as RIPE does no longer assign PI space and PI can not be
> reassigned and thus be bought.
> 
> Is assigning a /24 from my own PA space for the purpose of BGP multihoming
> considered sufficient "need"?

I haven't looked at RIPE policies in a while, but I would imagine that 
assigning a customer a /24 of your space because they need to multihome is 
considered a justifiable use.

> Could he get some PI from another region, such as ARIN? How does others
> handle this situation?

Most likely no, for two reasons.  1. Most RIRs don't assign IPv4 /24s to 
end-users except in very special cases, 2. The smallest PI block they 
would assign is usually something like a /21 or /22, so your customer 
would need to be justifiably using that much space before they could apply 
for a PI block, and 3, if the customer is in an area outside of $RIR's 
service area, they would direct them to contact the appropriate RIR.

I also hope your customer is making plans for IPv6 deployment.

jms


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