[168494] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Neighborhood mesh statistical multiplexing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Mon Jan 27 12:04:53 2014
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <8473482.5767.1390841902479.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:03:38 -0500
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On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:58 , Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
> =08From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
>> On Jan 26, 2014, at 16:04 , Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
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>>> I wonder if they'll break BCP 38... or vice-versa...
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>>> =
http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/01/bewifi-lets-you-steal-your-neighbo=
rs-bandwidth-when-theyre-not-using-it/
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>> As long as Telefonica customers only use other Telefonica links =
within
>> WiFi range, Telefonica can ensure it will have no effect on BCP38.
>> Worst case, I can "ddos" the guy in the next apartment by spoofing =
his
>> address. Best case, they ensure the BeWifi software disallows such
>> things.
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>> And I don't see other broadband networks allowing Telefonica =
customers
>> to ride their links.
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>> I also wonder why Telefonica would do this as opposed to telling
>> people to upgrade their DSL?
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> Unless I misread the piece, Pat, they *do* intend for customers to=20
> mesh non-Telefonica links, which is half of your answer.
I guess we read it differently.
They even mention "Telefonica is currently looking towards developing =
economies and its huge customer base".
Finally, assuming they ask someone else to do this, can you imagine =
another network saying "sure, use my DSL link to make your customer =
happier..."?
> "All our customers are at max rate for their distance" is probably the
> other half.
Thought about that, but they discuss customers on different tariffs.
It might be useful when everyone is limited to 128 Kbps or something.
> I was making the former assumption in my musing.
You know what you do when you make an assumption, right? You make an ASS =
out of U and MPTION. :)
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TTFN,
patrick
