[168224] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Internet Routing Registries - RADb, etc
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Krichbaum)
Wed Jan 15 18:30:36 2014
From: "Eric Krichbaum" <eric@telic.us>
To: "'Nick Hilliard'" <nick@foobar.org>, "'Blake Hudson'" <blake@ispn.net>,
<nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <52D6FE12.8000504@foobar.org>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:30:11 -0600
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I 100% agree with Nick. But, in dealing with Level3, you need Level3 =
Members Remarks in your objects to deal with multiple registries etc. =
They have an ok system that is a nightmare to pull from different =
datasources with them and they've churned the ultimately responsible =
individual a few times which makes it tough to get someone =
knowledgeable. Larry and team however at RADB will respond to remove =
your entries from someone else's stale records without much hassle.
Cogent will use your IRR data to generate a list the first time but they =
don't have a clue when it comes to keeping up to date.
The underlying problem is that there is incentive to enter objects (or =
have them entered for you) but none to remove old/stale/incorrect =
objects.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:nick@foobar.org]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 3:31 PM
To: Blake Hudson; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Internet Routing Registries - RADb, etc
On 15/01/2014 21:22, Blake Hudson wrote:
> I have emailed Level3 about the incorrect entries in their IRR with no =
> response. I have also emailed Cogent about their incorrect entry in=20
> RADb, also with no response.
>=20
> Should I be concerned about these entries? Do these entries give=20
> someone the ability to announce our IP space? How is the information=20
> in these databases checked for accuracy and why did RADb and Level3=20
> put these entries in their database when the posting party was not=20
> authorized to announce this space? And finally, what can be done to=20
> correct or remove these entries (as a non-customer of either RADb or =
Level3)?
It depends. Most organisations do not use IRRDBs for compiling prefix =
lists, but some do. If you happen to get service from one of these =
organisations, it's better to ensure that the prefixes are correctly =
registered. Lots of European IXPs use IRRDBs for route-server prefix =
filter lists, but this may not be relevant to you.
Level3 fills their IRRDB up with piles of crap. Good luck getting them =
to remove anything.
RADB is well run, and if Cogent can't get their act together enough to =
remove the entries from there, you can email Merit directly
(radb-support@merit.edu) and they can delete stuff, assuming that =
source:
is RADB and you can prove that you legitimately hold the address space.
Nick
