[168041] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Comcast/Level3 issues
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul WALL)
Mon Jan 6 16:26:21 2014
In-Reply-To: <81119A7A9796404B9F7A403A5BD7F1D9A280FDDE@PACDCEXMB02.cable.comcast.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 21:25:31 +0000
From: Paul WALL <pauldotwall@gmail.com>
To: "McElearney, Kevin" <Kevin_McElearney@cable.comcast.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Kevin,
Thank you for the info. Can you say how many quarters or years until
Comcast is resolved?
I've seen references to that obscure whitepaper (co-authored,
ironically, by Patrick Gilmore) before on the broadbandreports forums,
by someone with a lot of knowledge on Comcast's network and internal
politics/peering discussions. Do you know who the poster is?
https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=3D28619103+dslreports+site:www.dslrep=
orts.com&biw=3D1000&bih=3D1000
Drive Slow,
Paul WALL
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:17 PM, McElearney, Kevin
<Kevin_McElearney@cable.comcast.com> wrote:
> FWIW, we work with each issue and try to fix them as best we can. Severa=
l
> are underway. Much of the =B3traffic shifting=B2 is happening external t=
o
> Comcast with very large traffic swings congesting AND uncongesting paths.
> The beauty of adaptive routing via CDN and text book =B3Creating Incentiv=
es
> to Peer=B2 - feel free to google that...
>
> - Kevin
>
> On 1/5/14, 1:22 AM, "Paul WALL" <pauldotwall@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The people pushing this policy are not without a face and name. They rea=
d
>>this mailing list, and attend our conferences. You'll want to talk to
>>John
>>Schanz, Kevin McElearney, and Barry Tishgart.
>>
>>Drive Slow (like a Comcast peering port),
>>Paul Wall
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Scott Berkman <scott@sberkman.net> wrote=
:
>>
>>> Comcast having saturated links to other providers is a common and
>>> frequently discussed issue. Here is one previous NANOG thread on the
>>>topic:
>>>
>>> http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2010-December/029251.html
>>>
>>> And a related article:
>>> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Claims-Resurface-
>>> Concerning-Congested-Comcast-TATA-Links-111818
>>>
>>> There are debates back and forth on the validity of the graphs from the
>>> NANOG post, but it is a fact that at that time Comcast was heavily
>>> pre-pending their Level BGP advertisements to force traffic over to
>>>Tata,
>>> and many many people noticed congestion at those links in a variety of
>>> markets.
>>>
>>> I wish you luck, but my personal opinion is that your fastest resolutio=
n
>>> would be to move to another provider. Comcast is a residential ISP tha=
t
>>> lives on extreme over-subscription and not actually being able to
>>>deliver
>>> what customers believe they have. You'll notice a lot of recent news
>>>about
>>> increased and more strict data caps for their subscribers, and that is
>>>the
>>> only thing they will likely be doing to relieve these types of recurrin=
g
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> -Scott
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/02/2014 11:18 PM, R W wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm seeing the same as well. Can anyone from Comcast/Level(3) reach ou=
t
>>>> to me or provide comment. We're seeing heavy jitter and some packet
>>>>loss
>>>> most noticeable in NYC area connections between Level(3) and Comcast.
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 09:45:00 -0800
>>>>> Subject: Comcast/Level3 issues
>>>>> From: dwheet@gmail.com
>>>>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for a networking contact at comcast and/or level3. I've been
>>>>> having some slow speed issues with hitting some sites that's going
>>>>> through
>>>>> level3 and I think there might be some congestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
