[167980] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Open source hardware
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?UTF-8?Q?Dani=C3=ABl_W=2E_Crompto)
Fri Jan 3 05:06:09 2014
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From: =?UTF-8?Q?Dani=C3=ABl_W=2E_Crompton?= <daniel.crompton@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:05:30 +0100
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Good point Jimmy, there is a world of hurt involved, although it may be
slightly less painless when you realize that the alternative is: "*the NSA
[who] has modified the firmware of computers and network hardware=E2=80=94i=
ncluding
systems shipped by Cisco, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Huawei, and Juniper
Networks=E2=80=94to give its operators both eyes and ears inside the office=
s the
agency has targeted.*"[1]
There's already a world of hurt involved when you can't trust your
equipment because they potentially have backdoors in them.
D.
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d-catalog-of-surveillance-magic/
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On 3 January 2014 06:01, Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Andrew Duey <
> andrew.duey@widerangebroadband.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm surprised nobody's mentioned vyatta.org or the new fork of VyOs. W=
e
> > are currently using the vyatta community edition and so far it's been
> good
> > to to us. It depends on your hardware and how small of an ISP you are
> but
> > it might be a great open source fit for you.
>
>
> The orig. author has potentially set course for a world of hurt -- if th=
e
> plan is to scrap robust packaged highly-validated gear having separate
> hardware forwarding planes and ASIC-driven filtering, to stick cheap x86
> servers in the SP core and internet borders.
>
> Sure... anyone can install Vyatta on a x86 server, but assembly of all
> the pieces and full validation for a resilient platform comparable to
> carrier grade gear, for a mission critical network, should be a bit more
> involved than that.
>
> Next up.... how to build your own 10-Gigabit SFPs to avoid paying for
> expensive brand-name SFPs, by putting together some chips, wires, fibe=
r,
> and tying it all together with a piece of duck tape....
>
> just saying... :)
>
>
> > --Andrew Duey
> >
> --
> -JH
>
