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Re: Core router bakeoff?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Harold Willison)
Tue May 12 14:54:26 1998

Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 14:43:35 -0400
To: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@domino.org>
From: Harold Willison <harold@agis.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu

At 03:39 PM 5/12/98 +0100, you wrote:

>On Mon, 11 May 1998 12:13:27 +0200 

> GUESDON Herve CNET/DSE/ISS <<herve.guesdon@cnet.francetelecom.fr> wrote:

>

>> I use both CISCO GRF400 and GateD. I think that GateD is the best

>> easy to use and develop public routing software. But even if the GRF400

>> runs GateD, it's not as reliable as a CISCO 7500 per example.

>> The GRF400 has to much bugs to be an operational backbone router.

>> For example when you redistribute static routes via BGP, the GRF

   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

>> redistributes the adress IP of the non telecommunication port to.

>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>This is rubbish and sounds like you haven't RTFMed. I redistribute

>static routes throughout with the GRF and it works fine. 


We have no problem regarding the redistribution of statics routes on the GRF.

I would address the issue exactly as hr brought up but I really do not understand

what it is he was trying to say. 


>> The Ascend technical center is not helpful nor the documentation.

>> And the performance are limited to an average of 50k pps per card.

>I agree that the TAC is as good as useless the manuals of the GRF are

>toilet paper, fortuently I've used BSD/OS and gated for a while so I

>know my way around.

>

>I've seen a GRF tested to more than 50000 pps so I'd like to hear how

>you came to that conclusion.


The manual does suck. But, we have had pretty good tech support from 

ASCEND since the day they were installed. It really depends on who you

speak to and how competent your sales engineer is. I guess we got lucky.



>

>> But with the time i think that the GRF could be a good alternative

>> towards CISCO.

>

>Its already is a good alternative.


We have repllaced all core routers with GRF's and working on the customer  attached routers.

The only real problem we have is that reconfiguring gateD takes down OSPF.. oh.. and that

you have to slow down the GRF to keep it from killing Cisco's with BGP updates. 



>

>Regards,

>Neil.

>--

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>  Free the daemon in your <<A HREF="http://www.NetBSD.ORG/">computer!<</A>

>

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