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RE: turning on comcast v6

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jamie Bowden)
Fri Dec 20 08:08:19 2013

From: Jamie Bowden <jamie@photon.com>
To: Lee Howard <Lee@asgard.org>, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>,
 "ml@kenweb.org" <ml@kenweb.org>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:07:27 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CED9A84D.3CFDA%Lee@asgard.org>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

> From: Lee Howard [mailto:Lee@asgard.org]
> On 12/20/13 7:36 AM, "Jamie Bowden" <jamie@photon.com> wrote:
> >> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen@delong.com]


> >> I'm almost afraid to ask about the phrase "add-default-route=3Dyes" in=
 the
> >> dhcp-client configuration. That seems wrong on the face of it since yo=
u
> >> should be getting your routing information from RA and not DHCP.

> >No, no, no, a thousand times no.  I'm sure RA is great for small SOHO
> >networks and for ISPs as a means to hand out resources, but in a
> >corporate environment, we hate you.  How many times do the IPv6 people
> >have to hear that until DHCPv6 reaches feature parity with DCHPv4, IPv6
> >is dead to enterprise networks?


> "Parity" isn't enough information; what features are missing?  RA is part
> of IPv6, but you don't have to use SLAAC.
> I'd say it's the DHC people who need to hear it, not the IPv6 people, but
> YMMV.

I have a question.  Why does DHCP hand out router, net mask, broadcast addr=
ess, etc. in IPv4; why don't we all just use RIP and be done with it?

You don't have to like how enterprise networks are built, but you better ac=
knowledge that they are their own animal that have their own needs and driv=
ers, and telling them that the way their networks are built are wrong and t=
hey need to change their whole architecture, separation of service, securit=
y model, etc. to fit your idea of perfection isn't winning friends.  You ar=
e, however, influencing people.  Perhaps not in the manner you intended.

Jamie


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