[167063] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: What routers do folks use these days?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Stewart)
Fri Nov 29 11:36:18 2013
From: Paul Stewart <paul@paulstewart.org>
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:35:46 -0500
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Juniper throughout on our side now =85 former Cisco shop. Overall, =
quite happy =85. MX,M,E,EX,SRX etc=85
Paul
On Nov 29, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Darren O'Connor <darrenoc@outlook.com> =
wrote:
> We are using Juniper MX and Brocade XMRs for our P and PE routers.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Thanks
> Darren
> http://www.mellowd.co.uk/ccie
>=20
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>> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:19:33 +0100
>> From: kuenzler@init7.net
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: What routers do folks use these days?
>>=20
>> Am 29.11.2013 06:37, schrieb Jawaid Desktop:
>>> We're a service provider, and we have a network full of Cat6509's.
>>> We are finding that we are outgrowing them from the standpoint of
>>> their ability to handle lots of large routing tables. Obviously
>>> their switching capability is still superb but one of them with 20
>>> peers is starting to groan a bit and RAM is going to be an issue
>>> soon.
>>>=20
>>> What do people use these days? Our backbone needs in the next 2-3
>>> years are going to be sub-100Gbps.
>>=20
>> Check the Brocade MLXe series. We (Init7 / AS13030) are using them =
and
>> the previous XMR series for years and are happy with it. CLI is
>> Cisco-look-and-feel, the software tree has a clear structure (unlike
>> Cisco with hundreds of versions) and the TAC is willing to ssh into =
your
>> gear to assist.
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Fredy Kuenzler
>>=20
>> Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
>> AS13030
>> St. Georgen-Strasse 70
>> CH-8400 Winterthur
>> Twitter: @init7 / @kuenzler
>> http://www.init7.net/
>>=20
> =20
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