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Re: List of CDNs?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Sat Nov 16 17:29:08 2013

From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <52863870.5020607@aleae.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 17:28:39 -0500
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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First, the location of CDN nodes is not relevant to passive DNS =
monitoring. If Andrew would like a list of domains with CDN hostnames in =
them, that might be findable.

Second, a list of CDN nodes is likely impossible to gather & maintain =
without the help of the CDNs themselves. There are literally thousands =
of them, most do not serve the entire Internet, and they change =
frequently. And before you ask, I know at least Akamai will _not_ give =
you their list, so don't even try to ask them.

Sorry this makes your life more difficult. Perhaps if you explained why =
you were doing address lookups, the collective body could help you come =
up with a better solution?

--=20
TTFN,
patrick


On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:06 , Michael Collins, Aleae <mcollins@aleae.com> =
wrote:

> I'll second that; CDNs are a constant pain for me when I'm doing =
address
> lookups.  A list of them would make life a lot easier for a bunch of
> different investigative processes.=20
>=20
> If there isn't one right now, I think I could get off my tuchas and
> start maintaining one if anyone's interested in pitching in.
>=20
>=20
> On 11/14/13 5:19 PM, Andrew Fried wrote:
>> Actually, a list of CDNs would be very handy.  I harvest botnets and
>> fast flux hosts out of passive dns, and some of the heuristics used =
to
>> identify them are similar to what CDNs look like.
>>=20
>> Having a decent list of CDN effective top level domains alone would =
be
>> useful for redacting those hosts.
>>=20
>> Andy
>>=20
>>=20
>> Andrew Fried
>> andrew.fried@gmail.com
>>=20
>> On 11/14/13, 5:11 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>>> List of CDNs would be difficult, but not impossible. Although they =
do different things, so a simple list is unlikely to be as useful as it =
looks.=20
>>>=20
>>> A lost of CDN "DC nodes" is not possible. Why do you care about such =
a thing anyway?
>>>=20
>=20
>=20


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