[166855] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: OT: Below grade fiber interconnect points
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Fri Nov 15 16:26:18 2013
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:25:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <52868B11.7030004@rancid.berkeley.edu>
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Sinatra" <michael@rancid.berkeley.edu>
> >> Caveats:
> >
> > [ 17 pages of caveats elided ]
>
> I realize I am wordy, but four bullet points (one of which involves
> apparel) != "17 pages of caveats". Nice try. The rest of the email was
> inline replies to Justin's points.
We're not supposed to use emoticons on NANOG; it's unprofessional or
something. :-)
> > So, the elephant in the room at this stage of the thing is this:
> >
> > Why don't you just *put this stuff in a building*, and, y'know,
> > never demolish it?
>
> Have you ever been involved in University space wars? Especially in a
> new building? The 9-layer OSI model gets pretty top-heavy when you
> factor that in. If anything, the caveats helped to keep others from
> wanting to use the space.
Nope. But this isn't "space". It's "equipment". I assume they're
not moving their 1.5MW gensets around every year either?
> But I will say that the general difficulty of getting equipment in and
> out of the CEVs generally discouraged UCB from doing more CEVs beyond
> the 3 originals. That _one_ caveat weighed pretty heavily.
Yeah; cranes are a bitch. :-)
You seem to be taking this awfully personally, though, Mike; did you
*set* the policies and procedures I'm scoffing at?
Cheers,
-- jra
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Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com
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