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Re: OT: Below grade fiber interconnect points
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Fri Nov 15 15:30:17 2013
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:29:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <528676A8.2040800@rancid.berkeley.edu>
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Sinatra" <michael@rancid.berkeley.edu>
> UC Berkeley installed 3 CEVs (Controlled Environment Vaults) below
> ground on campus about 10-15 years ago. One of them houses one of the
> two main fiber penetrations to campus, including DWDM gear,
> patch-panels, border routers, even packetshapers (back when those were
> relevant in a large EDU environment), servers, WiFi portals, etc. This
> stuff has all been in place for at least 10 years and has worked really
> well, modulo the caveats below. Two of the vaults have 6-7 19" telco
> racks, and one (the one with the big fiber entrance) also has a 23"
> rack in addition to the others.
>
> Caveats:
[ 17 pages of caveats elided ]
So, the elephant in the room at this stage of the thing is this:
Why don't you just *put this stuff in a building*, and, y'know, never
demolish it?
Yes, you'll probably have to build it to CO grade standards, but that
isn't exactly rocket surgery, and it seems to me that you peel
3 or 4 layers of crap off the top doing it that way.
Unless you're in, say, the Philippines, I can't see the advantage of
burying all that stuff underground on a campus-scale deployment.
Cheers,
-- jra
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Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com
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