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Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Fri Nov 1 23:44:03 2013

From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
In-Reply-To: <ipw7acuqm87i0hwdiek14wll.1383358016384@email.android.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:40:24 -0700
To: Harry Hoffman <hhoffman@ip-solutions.net>
Cc: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog@bakker.net>, nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


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On Nov 1, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Harry Hoffman <hhoffman@ip-solutions.net> =
wrote:

> That's with a recommendation of using RC4.

it=92s also with 1024 bit keys in the key exchange.

> Head on over to the Wikipedia page for SSL/TLS and then decide if you =
want rc4 to be your preference when trying to defend against a adversary =
with the resources of a nation-state.
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> Cheers,
> Harry
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> Niels Bakker <niels=3Dnanog@bakker.net> wrote:
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>> * mikal@stillhq.com (Michael Still) [Fri 01 Nov 2013, 05:27 CET]:
>>> Its about the CPU cost of the crypto. I was once told the number of=20=

>>> CPUs required to do SSL on web search (which I have now forgotten)=20=

>>> and it was a bigger number than you'd expect -- certainly hundreds.
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>> False: =
https://www.imperialviolet.org/2010/06/25/overclocking-ssl.html
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>> "On our production frontend machines, SSL/TLS accounts for less than=20=

>> 1% of the CPU load, less than 10KB of memory per connection and less=20=

>> than 2% of network overhead. Many people believe that SSL takes a lot=20=

>> of CPU time and we hope the above numbers (public for the first time)=20=

>> will help to dispel that."
>>=20
>>=20
>> 	-- Niels.
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