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Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 28

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fred Reimer)
Fri Oct 11 14:55:15 2013

From: Fred Reimer <freimer@freimer.org>
To: Vytautas V Grigaliunas <vyto@fnal.gov>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:55:01 +0000
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Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Centralized management / control plane.  Kind of the reverse of widely
dispersed per-node policy based routing.


On 10/11/13 2:47 PM, "Vytautas V Grigaliunas" <vyto@fnal.gov> wrote:

>What is SDN at its essence ?
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>
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:13:57 +0100 (BST)
>> From: William Waites <wwaites@tardis.ed.ac.uk>
>> To: joelja@bogus.com
>> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: Re: Policy-based routing is evil? Discuss.
>> Message-ID: <20131011.191357.239591912.wwaites@tardis.ed.ac.uk>
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>>=20
>> On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:41:46 -0700, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
>>said:
>>=20
>>     > you take all the useful information that an IGP could be (or is)
>>     > providing you, and then you ignore it and do something else.
>>=20
>> Yes, that's another part of the conversation, encouraging the use of an
>>IGP,
>> which has been a source of trouble for them because of broken wireless
>>bridges
>> from a very commonly used vendor that randomly eat multicast packets,
>>so it's
>> not as straightforward as it should be.
>>=20
>>     > evil is not a synonym for ugly patch placed over a problem that
>>     > could be handled better.
>>=20
>> Ok, fair enough. My first experience with PBR was as a summer intern in
>>the
>> mid-1990s who inherited management of a large ATM network that had a big
>> VPN-esque thing built entirely that way and with no documentation. It
>>certainly
>> felt evil at the time. ;)
>>=20
>> -w
>>=20
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