[165828] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: iOS 7 update traffic
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Smith)
Mon Sep 23 05:35:34 2013
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:32:23 +0100 (BST)
From: John Smith <jsmith4112003@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Colin Alston <colin.alston@gmail.com>,
Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAFd3NNf7Wy5nM-7=VaqueH-N7iesq=u=8fWecKrqbeGaKNfXPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: John Smith <jsmith4112003@yahoo.co.uk>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Picked this off www.jaluri.com (network and Cisco blog aggregator):=0A=0Aht=
tp://routingfreak.wordpress.com/2013/09/23/ios7s-impact-on-networks-worldwi=
de/=0A=0AThe consensus seems to be for providers to install CDN servers, if=
they arent able to cope up with an occasional OS update traffic.=0A=0Ahttp=
://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=3D391B4B64-F693-41B7-6BBAC6D7017C3B8A=0A=0AJoh=
n=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Colin Alston <colin.alston@gma=
il.com>=0ATo: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> =0ACc:=
NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> =0ASent: Monday, 23 September 2013, 1:05=0ASubject=
: Re: iOS 7 update traffic=0A=0A=0AThat system by the way is annoying when =
your mobile network operator are so=0Aoversubscribed/old-fashioned that I h=
ad to wait over 6 months before I=0Acould update to Android ICS... I really=
don't want my ability to update the=0Asoftware on my phone to be controlle=
d by a teleco, and these large teleco's=0Areally should have Akamai caches =
in place by now - if they even know what=0Athat is.=0A=0A=0AOn Thu, Sep 19,=
2013 at 8:22 PM, Warren Bailey <=0Awbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>=
wrote:=0A=0A> I own a galaxy note 2..tmo ran an update that pushed to uniq=
ue IMEI's=0A> sequentially. That way, you do not..=0A>=0A> 1. Murder your l=
ast mike packet network, which is your bandwidth=0A> bottleneck.=0A>=0A> 2.=
Murder your ggsn/whateverpacketnodeyouwant closer to the core.=0A>=0A> 3. =
Anger your paying customers who would like to use packet data=0A> successfu=
lly on an ios download day.=0A>=0A> These people (Apple) represent themselv=
es as smart guys, but their actions=0A> reflect otherwise. I bet this would=
be a larger deal to Nanog people if=0A> your Internet stopped working as t=
he result of 100% Linux adoption. That is=0A> very close to what this is.. =
Tens of millions of people trying to update=0A> their 13 ios devices at the=
same time. Who owns a single ios device? A=0A> household could do 5-10gb w=
orth of updates in a single day..=0A>=0A> I personally do not own an ios de=
vice, and I see close to 3 gigs worth of=0A> update traffic at my house. Th=
ese things are everywhere, and this problem=0A> will not stop.=0A>=0A>=0A> =
Sent from my Mobile Device.=0A>=0A>=0A> -------- Original message --------=
=0A> From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>=0A> Date: 09/19/2013 11:16=
AM (GMT-08:00)=0A> To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.c=
om>=0A> Cc: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@mykolab.com>,NANOG <nanog@nanog.org=
>=0A> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic=0A>=0A>=0A> On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Wa=
rren Bailey wrote:=0A>=0A> > Why does apple feel it is okay to send every m=
obile device an update on=0A> a single day?=0A>=0A> They don't, these are u=
sers who actively goes into the software upgrade=0A> menu and pressing "upg=
rade".=0A>=0A> I believe the nagging won't start for quite some time.=0A>=
=0A> --=0A> Mikael Abrahamsson=A0 =A0 email: swmike@swm.pp.se=0A>
