[165794] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: iOS 7 update traffic
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Keith Medcalf)
Thu Sep 19 20:55:13 2013
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:54:58 -0600
In-Reply-To: <lrxrj3n5o2jyeiryvfaoath4.1379629765165@email.android.com>
From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf@dessus.com>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Why do you sell services to customers using iThings if you are incapable of=
supporting them? Are you sure that it is not you yourself who have used t=
o much "bait and switch" selling a service you are unable to provide? What=
actions do you take to discourage iThings on your network?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 19 September, 2013 16:29
> To: Ryan Harden; Jeroen van Aart
> Cc: <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic
>
> Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should not
> affect my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25 floppies and
> never look back. I'm asking..
>
> Is there a way for a COMPUTER and PHONE manufacturer to distribute their
> software without destroying most last mile connectivity?
>
> Who else has had traffic surges like this?
> And who else has a Nanog strike team coming in screaming buy more
> bandwidth? ;)
>
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ryan Harden <hardenrm@uchicago.edu>
> Date: 09/19/2013 3:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net>
> Cc: "<nanog@nanog.org>" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic
>
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net> wrote:
>
> > On 09/19/2013 12:06 PM, Ryan Harden wrote:
> >> As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has
> happened with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was released
> in 2007.
> >
> > The difference is there are now a "couple" more million devices out
> there than there were in 2007. And in 2007 there was just the one phone,
> now you have tablets and what have you.
>
> The effect has been relatively the same regardless of how many iDevices
> there are. Network Operators have seen spikes during Apple OS releases
> since they started. The only leeway I'll give you is that the original
> iPhone only supported 802.11b. With .11n and someday .11ac, the ability
> for these devices to consume data at a faster rate is also increasing.
>
> >
> >> This isn't a new phenomenon. I realize some of you are too cool for
> Apple
> >
> > Lame low ball remark, however I thought it was the opposite,
> Apple=3D=3Dcoolness?
>
> This was in no way meant to be a lowball remark. But it doesn't take
> much searching to find people exclaiming how they have zero Apple
> devices or how they don't pay attention to Apple's "iJunk". I assumed
> (probably mistakenly) that the lack of knowing this is going to happen
> roughly 2-3 times a year was due to being 'too cool' to keep up with the
> stuff Apple puts out.
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jeroen
> >
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