[165757] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: iOS 7 update traffic
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fred Reimer)
Thu Sep 19 16:35:05 2013
From: Fred Reimer <freimer@freimer.org>
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>, Cutler James R
<james.cutler@consultant.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:36:58 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CE60941F.6BE8%wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Woah there. I think you are crossing another line, or at least opening
another topic of discussion, when you start talking about transit or last
mile providers charging companies for bandwidth that their customers are
already paying for. I'd suggest a subject change if we want to open a
discussion on that topic.
On 9/19/13 2:46 PM, "Warren Bailey"
<wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
>A line, is a line, is a line, is a line.
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>There's no difference. Updates are available to all devices on a "download
>day", and providers networks are drastically reduced in capacity as a
>result. Apple does not cut them checks to serve it up, why should that
>traffic be more important than anything else? I'd DSCP updates to best
>effort hell and tell Apple I'd like a small share of the revenue they've
>gained from all the devices *I* am responsible for updating. They're not
>getting these updates OTA often, they actually advocate (shocking, AT&T
>wanting to save bandwidth) using your home Wi-Fi to download it. Providers
>can handle peaks, but SURGES begin to cause problems quickly. On
>narrowband pipes, we actually KILL updates.. They screw us that hard.
>
>On 9/19/13 11:43 AM, "Cutler James R" <james.cutler@consultant.com> wrote:
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>>On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Warren Bailey
>><wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
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>>> Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mobile device an update on
>>>a single day?
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>>Apple does not "send" updates. The user device must request an update.
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>>--As a side note, IOS 7 fixes/improves iDevices in multiple areas, making
>>it a compelling upgrade.
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>>James R. Cutler
>>james.cutler@consultant.com
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