[165749] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: iOS 7 update traffic
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ryan Harden)
Thu Sep 19 16:02:25 2013
From: Ryan Harden <hardenrm@uchicago.edu>
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:06:38 +0000
In-Reply-To: <ydj65tfhq1a19p8nsipoitv4.1379614966141@email.android.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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To be honest, I don't see this as a problem at all. Use it as an excuse =
to upgrade your pipes, talk Akamai or CDN of choice into putting a cache =
on your network, or implement your own caching solution. As operators of =
the Internet we should be looking for ways to enable things like this, =
not be up in arms at Apple for releasing an update to their phone OS or =
making it available in a way that's inconvenient to our oversubscription =
policies.
As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has happened =
with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was released in 2007. =
This isn't a new phenomenon. I realize some of you are too cool for =
Apple, but paying attention to traffic trends and keeping abreast of how =
new software releases might affect your utilization is part of properly =
running a network.
/Ryan
Ryan Harden
Senior Network Engineer
University of Chicago - AS160
P: 773-834-5441
On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Warren Bailey =
<wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
> I own a galaxy note 2..tmo ran an update that pushed to unique IMEI's =
sequentially. That way, you do not..
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> 1. Murder your last mike packet network, which is your bandwidth =
bottleneck.
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> 2. Murder your ggsn/whateverpacketnodeyouwant closer to the core.
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> 3. Anger your paying customers who would like to use packet data =
successfully on an ios download day.
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> These people (Apple) represent themselves as smart guys, but their =
actions reflect otherwise. I bet this would be a larger deal to Nanog =
people if your Internet stopped working as the result of 100% Linux =
adoption. That is very close to what this is.. Tens of millions of =
people trying to update their 13 ios devices at the same time. Who owns =
a single ios device? A household could do 5-10gb worth of updates in a =
single day..
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> I personally do not own an ios device, and I see close to 3 gigs worth =
of update traffic at my house. These things are everywhere, and this =
problem will not stop.
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> Sent from my Mobile Device.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
> Date: 09/19/2013 11:16 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
> Cc: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@mykolab.com>,NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic
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> On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Warren Bailey wrote:
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>> Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mobile device an update =
on a single day?
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> They don't, these are users who actively goes into the software =
upgrade
> menu and pressing "upgrade".
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> I believe the nagging won't start for quite some time.
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> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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