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Re: [liberationtech] Brazil Looks to Break from U.S.-Centric Internet

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eugen Leitl)
Wed Sep 18 12:43:28 2013

Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 18:37:06 +0200
From: Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org>
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----- Forwarded message from Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> -----

Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:25:13 -0700
=46rom: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net>
To: liberationtech <liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Brazil Looks to Break from U.S.-Centric Inter=
net
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On Sep 18, 2013, at 8:28 AM, David Johnson <David.Johnson@aljazeera.net> wr=
ote:

> Interesting ... but is this even possible?
> http://world.time.com/2013/09/18/brazil-looks-to-break-from-u-s-centric-i=
nternet/

Well, there are a bunch of different concepts being discussed.  The primary=
 one is localization of routing, which isn't just possible, it's best-pract=
ice, and something Brazil has been doing an excellent job of already for qu=
ite a few years.  If you look at https://pch.net/applications/ixpdir/summar=
y/ you'll see that they've got 23 active exchanges, which puts them second =
in the world after the U.S., with 77% annualized growth, compared to 10% in=
 the U.S.  If you look at the Brazil section of https://pch.net/ixpdir you'=
ll see that almost all of that growth has been occurring since they made it=
 an explicit policy goal in 2008, and began aggressively implementing IXP b=
est-practices.

At a governance level, Brazil is divided.  The CGI, which decides and imple=
ments domestic Internet policy, is the agency responsible for all this grow=
th and best-practices-following.  As such, they've been largely aligned wit=
h OECD-country and Internet interests.  The Brazilian federal government, o=
n the other hand, sets foreign policy, interacts with the ITU, et cetera.  =
And so although it has no appreciable influence over what happens _within_ =
the country, it's what's seen by other national governments in diplomatic c=
ircles.  In Internet governance, Brazil tends toward this Brazil-India-Sout=
h Africa axis, which doesn't particularly align with the Internet or OECD c=
ountries, unless by accident.  This is the area that Internet folks are mos=
t worried about, since those three countries are second-tier thought-leader=
s in the ITU, and can swing a lot of developing-country votes in their resp=
ective regions.  So Brazil is, in many ways, the U.S.' opposite: they do th=
e right thing domestically, but say the wrong thing internationally.=20

                                -Bill






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