[165584] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Crocker)
Mon Sep 9 16:13:32 2013
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:12:53 -0700
From: Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
To: Harald Koch <chk@pobox.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAPYK2_yeONy_gEqXs1XN0ywLuhjZwtNXoWKaGAA4GD5axqLtrA@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net
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On 9/7/2013 5:33 PM, Harald Koch wrote:
> On 7 September 2013 17:08, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@mykolab.com> wrote:
>> "Preliminary analysis of more than 25,000 traceroutes reveals a
>> phenomenon we call ‘boomerang routing’ whereby Canadian-to-Canadian
>> internet transmissions are routinely routed through the United States.
>
> I sincerely hope that nobody in Canada is surprised by this, since it was
> already an issue in 1994 (when I was at CA*net).
Much farther back than that.
In 1985 I was working in Toronto and did a proposal for a national X.25
network. The pragmatics for reliability were simple at a national
scale: Essentially all Canadian telecom links went through a few common
sites across the country; if you wanted redundancy you had to have a
second, independent path through the US.
Given that most Canadian population occupies a relatively thin band
(close to the US border), this topological fragility was/is largely
inherent.
d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net
