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Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (jim deleskie)
Sat Sep 7 17:20:34 2013

In-Reply-To: <522B95CF.2090206@mykolab.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 18:19:34 -0300
From: jim deleskie <deleskie@gmail.com>
To: fergdawgster@mykolab.com
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Paul,

  I agree this is a problem, but its been a problem since at least 1994 (
my first  exposure ) and I suspect longer, the issue is east we capacity in
Canada is very $$, pushing traffic from Toronto east to points south to get
it to Vancouver is much more cost effective.

-jim


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@mykolab.com>wro=
te:

>
> A Canadian ISP colleague of mine suggested that the NANOG constituency
> might be interested in this, given some recent 'revelations', so I forwar=
d
> it here for you perusal.
>
>
>
> "Preliminary analysis of more than 25,000 traceroutes reveals a
> phenomenon we call =91boomerang routing=92 whereby Canadian-to-Canadian
> internet transmissions are routinely routed through the United States.
> Canadian originated transmissions that travel to a Canadian destination
> via a U.S. switching centre or carrier are subject to U.S. law -
> including the USA Patriot Act and FISAA. As a result, these
> transmissions expose Canadians to potential U.S. surveillance activities
> =96 a violation of Canadian network sovereignty."
>
> http://lawprofessors.typepad.**com/media_law_prof_blog/2013/**
> 09/routing-internet-**transmission-across-the-**canada-us-border-and-us-*=
*
> surveillance-activities.html<http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/media_law_p=
rof_blog/2013/09/routing-internet-transmission-across-the-canada-us-border-=
and-us-surveillance-activities.html>
>
> Cheers,
>
> - ferg
>
>
> --
> Paul Ferguson
> Vice President, Threat Intelligence
> Internet Identity, Tacoma, Washington  USA
> IID --> "Connect and Collaborate" --> www.internetidentity.com
>
>

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