[165471] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sam Moats)
Fri Sep 6 06:21:25 2013
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Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 06:18:27 -0400
From: Sam Moats <sam@circlenet.us>
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I believe you are correct, whatever technical hurdles we put in place
will be overcome by policy. As long as you can legally require me to
make my network intercept able for "lawful" purposes and are able to
prevent me from explaining these purposes to my users any security that
I would put in place is effectively neutered.
I give up trying to resist, I am now firmly in the tin foil hat club.
Sam
On 2013-09-06 05:57, Roland Dobbins wrote:
> Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
>
>>We engineers built the Internet – and now we have to fix it
>
> Nonsense. This is not a technical issue, it's a socio-political
> issue. It’s both naive & distracting to try & solve this set of
> problems with code and/or silicon, when it must in fact be addressed
> within the civic arena.
>
> There are no purely technical solutions to social ills. Schneier of
> all people should know this.
>
>
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> Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net>
