[165285] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Evaluating Tier 1 Internet providers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric A Louie)
Wed Aug 28 04:18:24 2013
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 01:18:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric A Louie <elouie@yahoo.com>
To: Michael Smith <mksmith@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <091253D8-0E83-49EC-9EA8-B9556A6CDE24@mac.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: Eric A Louie <elouie@yahoo.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
how is that really much different than "reachability"?=A0 If I look at my p=
resent Netflow results, it's actually a pretty amusing mix - lots of Netfli=
x traffic (bear in mind we're a business ISP, not residential), Google (pro=
bably YouTube in there, I haven't dissected it thoroughly), Amazon, Yahoo, =
Microsoft/MSN, and that's all covered in the peering fabric connection.=A0 =
Outside of that, some private VPN-type traffic, I don't see a lot of govern=
ment networks, just "normal" Internet browsing and email.=0A=0ASince I'm no=
t at the Data Center much, I don't interact with the other customers there.=
=A0 (It's 150 miles away)=A0 Due to non-disclosure, the Data Center gang ar=
en't much going to share their customer contact info with me.=A0 But it's a=
nice thought, for sure.=0A=0A-e-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A>_______________________=
_________=0A> From: Michael Smith <mksmith@mac.com>=0A>To: Eric Louie <elou=
ie@yahoo.com> =0A>Cc: nanog@nanog.org =0A>Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 6:=
48 PM=0A>Subject: Re: Evaluating Tier 1 Internet providers=0A> =0A>=0A>You =
should also consider who exactly your customers (or you alone) want to reac=
h.=A0 Are you mostly looking to connect to eyeball networks?=A0 Enterprise =
networks?=A0 Government networks?=A0 If you have some target networks you =
should do some due diligence to find out how well connected your various op=
tions are to the networks that mean the most to you.=0A>=0A>If possible, I =
would also recommend talking to other people that are in your data centers,=
if that's possible.=A0 You might find out about hidden vendor-specific gre=
mlins in that location.=0A>=0A>Regards,=0A>=0A>Mike=0A>=0A>=0A>On Aug 27, 2=
013, at 12:02 PM, Eric Louie <elouie@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A>=0A>> Based on va=
rious conversation threads on Nanog I've come up with a few=0A>> criteria f=
or evaluating Tier 1 providers.=A0 I'm open to add other criteria -=0A>> wh=
at would you add to this list?=A0 And how would I get a quantitative or=0A>=
> qualitative measure of it?=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> routing stability=0A>> =
=0A>> BGP community offerings=0A>> =0A>> congestion issues=0A>> =0A>> BGP P=
eering relationships=0A>> =0A>> path diversity=0A>> =0A>> IPv6 table size=
=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Seems like everyone offers 5 9's service, 45 ms coa=
st-to-coast, 24x7=0A>> customer support, 100/1Gbps/10Gbps with various DIR/=
CIR and burst rates.=0A>> I'm shopping for new service and want to do bette=
r than choosing on=0A>> reputation.=A0 (or, is reputation also a criteria?)=
=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> much appreciated,=0A>> =0A>> Eric Louie=0A>> =0A>> =
=0A>> =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
