[165201] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Vancouver IXP - VanTX - BCNet
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jacques Latour)
Fri Aug 23 13:31:12 2013
From: Jacques Latour <jacques.latour@cira.ca>
To: Bill Reid <bill@mbix.ca>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:30:46 -0400
In-Reply-To: <521785D0.2060307@mbix.ca>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Bill, not true.
Following on our vision for Canada to have an IXP in every major city, spec=
ifically for Calgary, CIRA worked with CYBERA to organize a town hall meeti=
ng in Calgary, on September 14, 2013. At the meeting, we had interested me=
mbers of the community (Content delivery, ISP, government, R&E, CIRA, other=
s) together to start the development of a new IXP in Calgary.
Cybera being local, they took the lead in working with the community member=
s in setting up governance, technical architecture, location, etc... CIRA =
actively participated in the various committees. =20
CIRA is planning the deployment of equipment for the IXP, a .ca DNS Anycast=
stack, NTP servers and space for M-Lab nodes. We also work with PCH to ha=
ve a PCH anycast stack installed in Calgary. We talked to Akamai and Googl=
e to be part of the Calgary IXP. HE actually did build to Data Hive (Prefe=
rred data center in Calgary). Doing our part in trying to get as much cont=
ent, ISP, eyeballs, core internet services to be present at IXP. The Alber=
taIX is cash poor at that moment in time so CIRA was looking at options to =
fund equipment or provide start-up grants, nothing was done up to now with =
respect to providing equipment or funds.
Note: CIRA's job is not to go in and put a switch and leave. CIRA works wi=
th the community to get the IXP up and running. We have criteria to partic=
ipate, the IXP must be a member based, vendor neutral non-profit organizat=
ion with a viable trusted community to operate and sustain an IXP. CIRA is=
acting as a catalyst, not a doer. The community is the doer. Ask the peop=
le in Winnipeg www.mbix.ca and Montreal qix.ca . We are planning the launch=
of mbix this September as well. This is an example where the IXP build wa=
s successful.
Back to Calgary, something special occurred, while we were all working on s=
etting up AlbertaIX (we started fast but the pace slowed down significantly=
), a new IXP came to 'life' YYCIX in Data Hive, yycix.ca. Long story short=
, CIRA is waiting for things to settle before we continue providing more su=
pport and invest in deployment our .CA infrastructure. When the "dust" set=
tles, we will deploy our .ca infrastructure and be a member of the communit=
ies (peer).
There's a chance we're going to have two IXPs in Calgary, hopefully they wo=
uld be in the same data center to leverage our investment, if we have two,=
then it's going to make it confusing for the new potential peers to pick t=
he right one or both.
All in all, CIRA's objective was to have 1 IXP in Calgary, we have one now,=
perhaps 2 in the future, so mission accomplished. It's up to the communit=
y to get their act together (no pun intended), and if they need our help, t=
hen we're there to help with governance, funding, technical expertise, etc.=
..
Also, we're doing our best with our limited resources,
Jack
(NOTE: English not my first language, if you're not sure what I mean, ask m=
e, don't assume)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Reid [mailto:bill@mbix.ca]
> Sent: August-23-13 11:55 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Vancouver IXP - VanTX - BCNet
>=20
> On 23/08/13 09:56, Mark Leonard wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:
> >
> >> What CIRA is doing is providing support in the areas where previous
> >> efforts have struggled, providing hardware, accounts payable, legal,
> >> help with incorporation and forming sensible bylaws and stimulating
> >> local discussion and interest. My perspective is that they have done
> >> a great job in Calgary and Montr=E9al. It sounds like the approach in
> >> Vancouver (engage with existing efforts, see where CIRA can help) is
> following the same path.
> >>
> >
> > What has CIRA done in Calgary?
> >
> CIRA has done a great job in Winnipeg and Montreal. Nothing in Calgary.
