[165039] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How big is the Internet?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Fri Aug 16 00:20:01 2013
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
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Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 00:19:18 -0400
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On Aug 15, 2013, at 20:02 , Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
>> From: "Warren Bailey" <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
>=20
>> I neglected to say one additional thing which I think may be worth =
reading
>> before replying. I have always held the opinion that internet traffic
>> isn't internet traffic until it hits the Internet, which I defined as
>> two or more autonomous systems functioning on their own but =
possessing the
>> ability to relay information between the two. I'm pretty sure that if
>> you have a single network, you couldn't label it "inter" unless =
"inter"
>> was between yourself - and then you have a network.. Not an =
internetwork.
>=20
> I suspect that, to a first approximation, "traffic which passes =
through the
> edge of at least one AS" is probably what most people think of as =
'Internet'
> traffic.
As per my original post to this thread, that would remove all traffic =
from Akamai on-net nodes, Google's GGC nodes, Netflix's on-net Open =
Connect nodes, and many others.
If you are a broadband network in many countries, that is well over half =
the traffic going down your customer's pipes.
I think most people would alter their definition to count that traffic.
> As for your DNS question: the interior query isn't, per-se, but the=20
> repeated one from your resolver/proxy *is*.
I don't think the type of packet (DNS, HTTP, SMTP, etc. or even TCP, IP, =
ICMP) should matter.
--=20
TTFN,
patrick
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