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Re: Revealed: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Wed Jul 31 12:01:21 2013
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Chris Boyd <cboyd@gizmopartners.com>, NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:56:52 +0000
In-Reply-To: <F0E981BA-16D9-45D0-8165-6481C2D64072@gizmopartners.com>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
And how many people utilize a VPN for site to site? You can convince me you=
can spin up an Ipsec connection, but at that point your "originating gatew=
ay" changed from your way to the Internet to the VPN's way. Either.. Way.. =
You still head out in clear channel Internet and get owned elsewhere. I can=
't see a giant "this doesn't work here" sign on much except for Tor.
Sent from my Mobile Device.
-------- Original message --------
From: Chris Boyd <cboyd@gizmopartners.com>
Date: 07/31/2013 8:52 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Revealed: NSA program collects 'nearly everything a user does =
on the internet'
On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "<<\"tei''>>>" <oscar.vives@gmail.com> <oscar=
.vives@gmail.com> wrote:
> - Have I read it correctly. Can then break into a vpn connection,
> then leach documents that a german in pakistan is sending to his
> office in germany?
I would guess that it's becasuse many VPN services still support PPTP which=
can be attacked as outlined here:
http://www.schneier.com/paper-pptpv2.html
--Chris
