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Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Fri Jul 26 19:44:28 2013

From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 23:43:50 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CAAAwwbXV-xZU4J4u-meJ8VysH_Uag_uP7=5B3aotiWcVVcxeRw@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Jul 26, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com> wrote:

> If someone studies that and finds there is a correlation to spam based
> on WHOIS listing alone,
> then perhaps....

No study has been conducted, but we do receive a small number of complaints=
=20
each year about email contact information being solicited in cases were the=
=20
email address is exclusively used on IP address blocks and nowhere else.=20
(Often, the culprits are network equipment vendors or technical recruiters)

When we receive such, we send a nasty letter indicating violation of the=20
Whois terms of use.  Most companies seem to pay attention to this, but then=
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again, it's generally been a misguided individual at an otherwise legitimat=
e=20
enterprise causing the problem, as opposed to typical bulk email harvesting=
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operation.

> In other words:   for starters,  assume the number of  "bad actors" is
> small,  and   let the community  pressure them  and their peers to
> retaliate,      before    diminishing the average usefulness of WHOIS
> to everyone,   (which restricting access to a small number of users
> does).

I believe we can arrange to publicly post our notices of violation;=20
let me look into this option.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN



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